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How Many Websites Are Using Joomla: A Closer Look

June 4th, 2010 at 10:28 AM CEST in Websites

We all know that Joomla is a tremendously popular CMS. In the past several attempts have been made to estimate the number of websites using Joomla. While these attempts were worthy contributions to the discussion, all of them were using their own methods and therefore had their own shortcomings. Several of the earlier attempts will be discussed and a new method for estimating the number of websites that use Joomla will be presented.

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Attempts made by others

The earliest and perhaps best-known attempt to count the amount of websites using Joomla was done by Barrie M. North on his blog Compass Designs in June 2007. By looking at the link data from Google and Yahoo he estimated the number of websites using Joomla to be around 30 million.

JoomlaShack posted two years later in 2009 that they estimated the number of Joomla websites based on the amount of downloads the Joomla package has had at that point in time to be in the 'tens of millions'.

Another attempt was made a couple of months later in August of 2009 by Joomla.me. Instead of looking at the total number of Joomla websites they decided to focus on the amount of successful Joomla websites. Their analysis based on Alexa traffic rankings showed that about 2.5% of all successful websites on the Internet are running Joomla.

Criticism on earlier approaches

The methods used in two of the earlier studies have received criticism from the community. For example Brian Teeman pointed out that "the number of downloads is interesting but it doesn't really give a true figure of installations, especially as you could use one download 100 times or just install it directly from the host.". Another point criticism came from Alledia who pointed out that they found the results somewhat strange. After closer inspection of the results, they blame the usage of data from Alexa.com which they called "a notoriously unreliable guide to website traffic numbers".

Interestingly enough, I could not find any evidence of the results from the study by Compass Designs being challenged. For the sake of argument let's assume the results of this study were correct and there were in fact 30 million websites running Joomla in 2007. According to studies done by Netcraft, in June 2007 (at the time of the publication of the blog on Compass Designs) there were about 55,800,000 active domains on the Internet. This number counts subdomains such as example.blogger.com and test.blogger.com as separate domains. Comparing this number to the number published on Compass Designs blog, this would mean that over half of the active websites on the Internet would run on Joomla at that time. Even using the bottom of the range chosen to base estimations on (which is 10 million websites running Joomla), would imply that about one in every five websites (or 20%) ran on Joomla. One more possible caveat in the study concerns the way in which the "Powered by Joomla!" message was used.

The bottom of the range seems determined by the number of pages including "Powered by Joomla". However, analyzing the first 50 results on Google.com for the phrase "Powered by Joomla!" only 10 of the websites found actually contained the phrase "Powered by Joomla!" and has the word Joomla! as a link back to the joomla.org website. Even though some of these websites are in fact built on Joomla and contain a link back to joomla.org, they are not using the original "powered by" message. The point here is that Barry (by using the "powered by Joomla!" message as an indicator) might have overestimated the bottom of his range by as much as 80%.

Getting a scope

The size of the Internet is enormous. To give you an impression of what these numbers mean imagine the following. You are standing on a football field in red marked block of 1 x 1 meter. This football field is about 8,300 m long and 10,000 m wide. If the marked block is your domain name, then the football field is the internet. Some numbers:

  • The total number of web pages indexed by search engines on 2 June 2010 according to WorldWideWebSize is about 21,590,000,000
  • The total number of domains on June 2010 (including subdomains) according to Netcraft in their monthly survey is about 200,000,000
  • The total number of domains registered (with all subdomains counting as one domain) is according to DomainTools about 120,000,000
  • The total number of root domains included in the index of Linkscape by SEOmoz is about 86,000,000
  • The total number of active domains on June 2010 (including subdomains) according to Netcraft in their monthly survey is about 83,000,000

As we are looking at the websites in this study and not webpages, we are not looking for the number WorldWideWebSize gives us. As the studies by Netcraft show that over half of the domains crawled are in fact inactive (and therefore will not contain any Joomla installations) we will not look at that number anymore either. Similar reasoning can be applied to the number given by DomainTools. Since the studies by Netcraft show that many domains are left unused, you can assume that the number given by DomainTools is an overestimation of the actual amount of websites on the Internet as well. Seeing that the number of root domains in the SEOmoz Linkscape index is still rising with each update we can assume that this number will rise to at least 100 million root domains. This would explain why the number of active domains as reported by Netcraft is only slightly lower than the number of root domains included in the index of Linkscape, despite the data of Netcraft including subdomains.

Considering how long the Netcraft study is running already we can assume that data to contain the most correct number. We therefore define the number of 'websites' on the Internet for the purpose of this study to be 83 million.

Football field

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Current approach

In the current approach will try to integrate several of the techniques used by other researchers to make a better estimation of the number of websites using Joomla. First we will have a look at two websites that aim to determine the technologies that drive websites on the Internet.

W3Techs uses the Alexa rankings to determine the top 1 million websites. Both subdomains and redirected domains are excluded from the surveys. W3Techs state that "as of today, 19.15% of the top 1 million sites use any of the CMS that we monitor". 19.15% of 83,000,000 means that 15,894,500 are using any CMS (including Wordpress). If 11.2% of these websites are using Joomla as stated in their findings, this means that 1,780,184 (2.14% of 83,000,000) websites are built on Joomla. Comparing this number to the one found by Joomla.me (2.5% of the top 1 million websites sampled, which extrapolates to 2,075,000 websites in total) it shows very similar results.

BuiltWith uses a cross section of website domains provided by URLs entered at BuiltWith.com and the Quantcast Top Million to calculate the distribution of CMSs. Analytics penetration is based on what BuiltWith can find and is typically based on popular 3rd party tools. BuiltWith shows that 4.71% of the websites that were sampled were using any CMS that they monitor. If 9.14% of these websites are using Joomla as stated in their findings, this means that 357,310 (0.43% of 83,000,000) websites are built on Joomla. A possible cause as to why this number is so much lower than the percentage found by Joomla.me and W3Techs is the exclusion of WordPress as a CMS in the analysis of BuiltWith.

Link data as reported by OpenSiteExplorer shows that there are about 264,789 root domains linking to Joomla.org (link data as reported by Google using the 'link:' command is not included in this analysis since it seems seriously flawed as reported by the people over at SEOmoz). This number is far more interesting than the amount of web pages linking to Joomla.org, as a Joomla website containing 10,000 pages would generate 10,000 links back to Joomla.org. However, this number is far lower than the approximate 1,900,000 websites reported by W3Techs and Joomla.me. A likely explanation of this is the number of people using commercial templates which do not necessarily include link back to Joomla.org and the amount of people removing the link from their original template. Assuming the numbers reported by SEOmoz, W3Techs and Joomla.me to be representative results this would mean that over 90% of all Joomla users remove to link back from their website in one way or another.

Conclusion

Taking all the evidence reported above in consideration, I would estimate that there are between 1.5 and 2 million websites using Joomla on the Internet. I would love to hear about any flaws in reasoning, statistics, calculations or general methods, so I can correct them in the main article and possibly make the estimation better.

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User Comments (19)

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Eddie

June 8th, 2010 at 11:58 AM CEST
Hi,
Interesting discussion - thanks. We always remove the 'Powered By ..' links and the metadata references to Joomla!, alongside renaming the administrator directory, etc, etc - just the 1st line of defence really.
Cheers,
Eddie

Mikal

August 22nd, 2010 at 6:05 AM CEST
Too bad Joomla! doesn't include any kind of ping back so that we can get closer to a precise number. At any rate, the rise of CMS seems to continue, which is good news.

Vonda Urueta

October 29th, 2010 at 12:00 AM CEST
hello,I'm from University of Delaware

My thesis cited your articles, if that violated your copyright, delight send an email to speak to me.

Theo

October 29th, 2010 at 3:28 PM CEST
Citing an article with proper attribution does not violate our copyrights Vonda. I'm glad we could provide you with resources for your thesis!

Theo

November 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 PM CET
Ummmm ..... I think you are wrong.

November 2010: 15.1 million blogs hosted on WordPress.com plus 17.4 million active installations of the WordPress.org software.

That would mean that all CMS websites would be Wordpress sites.

http://en.wordpress.com/stats/

Theo van der Zee

November 23rd, 2010 at 10:42 PM CET
Hi Theo,

It appears we share names, awesome! First off: I might be completely off with my estimation in any regard, and therefor want to thanks you for taking the time to respond and that way trying to help getting a better estimation.

For the remainder of the reply I'll assume the number of 17.4 million active WordPress installations is correct, as I see no reason why this wouldn't be so.

A recent study by http://cmscrawler.com/ has found that around 494,040 out of 2,944,914 (or ~16%) European web sites is running a CMS (including self-hosted WordPress). Viewed in the light of the reported analyses (19.15% [including WordPress] by W3Techs and 4.71% [excluding WordPress] by BuiltWith), this number seems pretty accurate and adds to the validity of the other studies.

The WordPress marketshare of ~3.2% reported by CMSCrawler and ~2.5% report by W3TEchs average to ~2.85%. When that marketshare is applied to the number of 17.1 million WordPress installations, this results in a total number of domains / websites of 600,000,000 (600 million).

This leads me to conclude that either I'm doing something wrong in the calculations above (if so, please point me to the errors), or WordPress uses another metric than the root domains I've used in my study. That discrepancy causes the numbers in the article to differ from those reported by WordPress, a lot.

Theo

November 24th, 2010 at 7:58 AM CET
Well Theo,

As I read more and more about this, it seems that a lot of the online figures are estimations. (not saying that netcraft is lying)

I think you did a pretty good job on the calculation part, but I think we never really will know the right figures until we count the Joomla! sites by hand ;-)

Vertical Pigeon

June 4th, 2011 at 3:21 PM CEST
One year later, and there are about 1.4 million Joomla websites in existence!

Roshan

June 11th, 2011 at 10:12 PM CEST
Joomla definitely is among the finest open source CMS available.

Chris @ Thoshiba DVR670 Review

August 5th, 2011 at 3:34 PM CEST
I run several Joomla sites and there must be more than 2 million sites out there. I figure there are arund 10 million.

Theo

August 5th, 2011 at 3:40 PM CEST
Hi Chris,

Given the extensive research presented above and the fact that nobody has yet succesfully challenged the numbers I concluded on: could you please elaborate on your statement?

This way it looks like you're just trying to get a (nofollow'ed) backlink from our blog.

Kind regards,
Theo

Tobias Grahn

August 20th, 2011 at 11:05 AM CEST
Very nice article,
even if its one year old when i found it. :)

It would be very interesting to know how many of the joomla sites are 1.0, 1.5, 1.6 or 1.7. Im having trouble finding this information on the net.

Kind regards,
Tobias

Tobias Grahn

August 20th, 2011 at 11:12 AM CEST
Hi again,
just found it, thanks to your links.
This is what i found:
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-joomla/1/all

Version 1.5
97.6%
Version 1.6
2.3%
Version 1.7
0.1%


Kind regards,
Tobias

Otto Automatenspiele

September 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 PM CEST
Great article indeed! I am one of the millions of Joomla users.

Barbara Cinquantuno

October 3rd, 2011 at 3:08 PM CEST
well done Joomla! keep it up

karl

October 6th, 2011 at 10:39 PM CEST
The reason Joomla doesn't have any date on how many sites use them is simple, they know that out of the millions who have downloaded only about 2.5% wind up making use of it. I have been working with computers since the mid 90's, I learned press press and page maker on my own, web design on my own, Joomla is THEE most counter intuitive , arcane,frustrating, complex, rube goldberg cms platform I have ever seen. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get a single link to a single page on a menu that shows up on the site in less than 3 days!

Beth Gamelic

October 20th, 2011 at 5:16 PM CEST
Interesting article really... we're probably all joomla users

Theophile Nzungize

November 8th, 2011 at 3:42 PM CET
No we are not all joomla users. I personnally use Wordpress to create blogs, but sometimes, to create a portal for example, Joomla is the best. Great article, thanks for sharing! Oh yeah! I think I'm the third "Theo"! Hahaha!

web design companies

May 4th, 2012 at 3:46 PM CEST
These stats are all open to interperation really. Such as the recent headline that 'there are more web pages than people in the world' . This refers to web 'pages' not 'sites' as one would initially presume. There are more wordpress sites than joomla, but most of these aren't what a lot of people call 'proper websites' and are rarely seen by anybody, just used for SEO purposes. In this case I would agree that Joomla is the most poular CMS for 'proper' Web sites, although this could sound a bit snobbish.
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